tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-58181223718452209822024-03-13T08:46:42.852-07:00Debunking the 9/11 No-Planes TheorySaul Tranehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15535710574469682823noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5818122371845220982.post-72335074742055421972016-06-18T15:10:00.000-07:002016-06-28T17:59:04.387-07:00Aircraft Parts and Debris Found Near the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Piece of fuselage from AA11</td></tr>
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Hall of </span><span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;"><a href="http://www.richplanet.net/">RICHPLANET
TV</a>, Dr. Judy Wood stated that she "smirked" while watching the live coverage of the World Trade
Center attacks on 9/11 with colleagues at Clemson University. Dr. Wood
says that she found the event humorous because it was similar to watching a <i>Looney Tunes </i>Roadrunner cartoon (never
mind that hundreds of real people were trapped in the buildings, burning and
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;">The impact hole in WTC1, according to Wood, appeared unrealistic--like a Wile E. Coyote cut-out. What most caught her attention, she says, was that the wing-tips of the alleged airliner had cut cleanly
through the steel perimeter box-columns of the tower. Dr. Wood explains that this
is an obvious impossibility. The wing-tips of an airliner are light and
fragile, don't carry fuel like the rest of the wing, and therefore lack the necessary mass to penetrate the columns.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;">"When we see things that are impossible", stated Wood, "we giggle". The physics professor therefore giggled to herself upon seeing the massively damaged Twin Towers which had become a horrific inferno and death trap on the morning of 9/11.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">It's rather shocking that Dr. Wood--purportedly an accomplished and respected physicist, researcher, and academic--would be so arrogant, so brazen, and so scientifically inept as to conclude immediately that the impact hole in WTC1 was impossible merely from a subjective visual assessment of the damage on standard definition television. So confident was Dr. Wood in her prima facie analysis that she actually smirked, laughing to herself while among faculty colleagues who watched aghast the horror unfolding before them. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , sans-serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">In fact, her analysis of the damage was/is absolutely <b>wrong</b>. Dr. Wood bases her
"cartoon physics" criticism on her conjecture that an airliner's aluminum
wingtips are too light and fragile to have penetrated the towers' columns as she apparently observed on television. The problem with her rationale is that <b>no wingtip of either plane penetrated the steel columns of either tower.</b> It's astounding that she's
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">The first and most obvious way Dr. Wood could have verified her initial observation (had the notion </span><span style="font-size: 15.3333330154419px; line-height: 21.3333339691162px;">occurred</span><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> to her) would have been to examine existing photographs of the impact holes. It's foolish to rely solely on low resolution video for forensic analysis. If Dr. Wood was skeptical regarding the physical nature of the impact damage, why wouldn't she have examined any of the existing high-resolution images of the towers taken by photographers
on 9/11? When looking at photographs, it's very easy to see that the wingtips </span><b style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">did not sever the steel columns</b><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">, and instead cut only through the </span><i style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">exterior aluminum cladding</i><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">, marking and/or bending the columns underneath, but not severing them. (click on the below images to see them in full resolution).</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;">Dr. Wood's negligence extends beyond overlooking the photographic evidence, however, because not only is it obvious from photographs that the wing-tips did not penetrate the columns, <b>this observation was explicitly stated in the NIST report </b>as is shown below.(</span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "verdana" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 19.200000762939453px;">NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: </span><i><a href="http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=101356" target="_blank">Visual Evidence, Damage Estimates, and Timeline Analysis</a>)</i><span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 16pt;">. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;">It's clear that Dr.
Wood hasn't even read this part of the NIST report, the chapter devoted to
assessing the initial damage to the towers. How could this be? How could
someone who claims to be a scientist and truth-seeking researcher, someone who
has published <a href="http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/" target="_blank">her own book</a> claiming to be "the only comprehensive-forensic
investigation into what happened to the World Trade Center complex on
9/11" have neglected to thoroughly read the NIST report, the most
exhaustive investigative study published on the destruction of the towers?</span><br />
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(Dotted lines show where the outer aluminum cladding was marked, leaving intact the steel columns underneath.)</div>
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;">Dr. Wood criticizes the NIST report, but hasn't even read it. She laughs at the airplane impact damage, but hasn't really looked at it. Whatever sort of "research" Dr. Wood claims to have done, it's far from scientific and cannot be taken seriously. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;">The impact holes in the twin towers present a very a big problem for the No-Plane Theory, leaving questions to which proponents of the theory have failed to provide any viable answers.</span><br />
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<li style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: "trebuchet ms" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 16pt;">If real planes did not impact the towers how were the perpetrators able to create large holes that exactly match the dimensions of 767's with exterior steel beams and/or entire steel panels <i>bent</i> or <i>punched</i> <i>INWARD</i>? This was done with explosives? Explosives that were somehow invisible from the outside of the towers? How could this have possibly been done?</span></span></li>
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For genuine, scientifically-based, information on the physics of the WTC airplane impacts go here:</span></span></span>
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<li><a href="http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200702/Implausibility-Directed-Energy-Beam-Demolish-WTC-by-Gregory-Jenkins.pdf" target="_blank">The Overwhelming Implausibility of Using Directed Energy Beams to Demolish the World Trade Center Towers</a> by Gregory S. Jenkins, Ph.D. and Matt Sullivan</li>
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<li><a href="http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/b/scientific-critique-of-judy-woods-paper-star-wars-beam-weapons-by-james-gourley.pdf" target="_blank">Scientific Critique of Judy Wood's Star Wars Beam Weapons</a> by James Gourley</li>
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Many people who
support the notion that airplanes did not collide with the WTC towers
erroneously apply physics to substantiate their claim. The following letter
attempts to clarify the difference between the ‘airplane deceleration’ (which
can only be well described by the center of mass motion) versus tail
deceleration. The concept of average versus instantaneous velocity is also
highlighted. I use the airplane impact analysis published by NIST in NCSTAR1-2
and NCSTAR1-2B to vividly illustrate these concepts, and show that NIST clearly
reports a 70% decrease in velocity just after the tail section passes through
the outer wall, not 0% as alleged by Morgan Reynolds3 and others, representing
a net loss in kinetic energy of 91%<br />
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Just as the official story encapsulated
in the NIST report fails under scrutiny when sound physical concepts are
applied which illegitimatizes overreaching critical assumptions, concepts
within the 9/11 truth movement must similarly withstand intense scientific
scrutiny. I do not endorse the NIST report as a whole, but find sections of the
report well conceived. I currently find no reason to reject the finite element
impact analysis of a Boeing-767 with the WTC towers based upon flawed
methodology, misguided assumptions, or contradictions with observation. Within
this letter, I will use the NIST impact results to illustrate the flawed
methodology employed by many proponents of the ‘no planes’ theory, namely the
mischaracterization of the plane deceleration during impact and confusion
between instantaneous versus average velocity and deceleration.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Proponents of the ‘no plane’ theory
claim that videos showing the aircraft deceleration from both planes during
impact with WTC 1 and WTC 2 are much too small. They conclude that this is
unphysical, especially in light of the fact that NIST allegedly reports zero
deceleration of the aircraft in the case of the WTC 2 impact (3).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Videos of the impact only show the part
of the aircraft visible outside of the exterior walls which, admittedly, does
not appear to decelerate appreciably. The center of mass of the airplane,
however, decelerates considerably.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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NCSTAR1-2 (where I have added the “75%” label as well as a phantom plane at 0.2
seconds)(1) shows the NIST modeled impact of a Boeing-767 with WTC 2. In the
‘base case’ scenario, the initial velocity of the plane just before impact
closely matches measurements obtained from multiple video sources, namely 542
MPH. The tail end of the plane moves one plane length, 159 feet 2 inches,
during a time interval of 0.2 seconds which yields an average velocity of 541.5
MPH.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">A very small change in velocity of the
tail end is not unexpected. Analysis of an F-4 Phantom jet aircraft impacting a
massive slab of concrete at Sandia National Laboratories shows no loss of velocity
of the tail end during collision within the measured error (see appendix for
details).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">However, this miniscule deceleration
does not represent the deceleration of the entire airplane, only the tail end.
The center of mass represents the motion of the entire airplane. Since the
front of the aircraft decelerates faster than the tail due to impact, the
center of mass shifts towards the tail end. Therefore, the center of mass of
the plane travels less distance than the tail. Using Figure 7-34, one can see
that the center of mass only travels approximately 75% of a plane length over
0.2 seconds which represents an average velocity of 406 MPH. This results in an
average decrease in velocity of 406/542 = 25%.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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spatially averaged momentum of all the thousands of pieces of the airplane
generated by the impact and is summarized in Figure 9-28 published in
NCSTAR1-2B (2). The graph shows what is commonly called the ‘instantaneous’
momentum of all the plane parts. That is, the momentum (equivalently the
velocity since mass is conserved) at any instant in time of the center of mass
which can be read directly from the graph.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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graph over the time interval from zero to 0.2 seconds, we can obtain the NIST
reported average change in velocity of the center of mass. This is accomplished
by using calculus: calculate the area under the curve between zero and 0.2
seconds and divide by 0.2 seconds. This yields an average decrease in velocity
of the center of mass of 25% which agrees with the analysis from Figure 7-34.
It should be noted that the net decrease in velocity obtained from the graph at
0.2 seconds is 70% representing a net loss of 91% of the aircraft’s kinetic
energy.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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is clearly self-consistent, appears to not violate any laws of physics, and
closely matches observation. Immediately after the entire aircraft passes
through the exterior wall, the net reduction in velocity of the aircraft as
reported by NIST is obviously 70% representing a net loss in kinetic energy of
91%. An analysis of a crash test of an F-4 Phantom jet aircraft showed no
appreciable deceleration of the tail end during impact with a massive concrete
slab demonstrating that little deceleration is expected from the tail end of a
Boeing-767 during impact with a WTC tower.</span><br />
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Laboratories conducted a crash test of an F-4 Phantom jet impacting a massive
concrete block in 1988. Picture 1 is a still frame from the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://digitalops.sandia.gov/Mediasite/Play/6822b0a46ff54ec09a45a87c6177047e1d?catalog=7402e84d-48e4-467e-813c-0ecd42ca3d08" target="_blank">video segment used in the analysis</a> with an added
overlay of blue and red equally spaced vertical lines. Although this particular
segment is running in slow motion, Sandia reports that the initial velocity of
the plane before impact was 480 MPH (<a href="http://digitalops.sandia.gov/Mediasite/Catalog/catalogs/History">http://digitalops.sandia.gov/Mediasite/Catalog/catalogs/History</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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frames (1/30 of a second) when the tail-end was aligned to each vertical line
is tabulated in Table 1. Since the error bars are quite large (+/- ½ frame),
the time differencewas calculated between every 2 vertical lines. For example,
in Picture 1, the time difference calculated at the first red vertical line is
taken as the time it takes for the tail-end to traverse both adjacent blue
vertical lines, and the result placed into the row labeled “Red 1” in Table 1.</span><br />
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constant (the distance between every other vertical line), the <i>relative velocity ~ 1/change in time</i> and
is tabulated in the third column of Table 1. The average of this column is
computed and is used to normalize the data, resulting in column 4.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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velocity is shown in Figure 2. The red and blue vertical lines in the graph
correspond with those in Picture 1 (left-aligned). An arrow marks where the
point of impact begins. Each data point should be thought of as a rolling
average over the distance of 2 units of the x-axis.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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frame = 1/30 second, but the original film was in slow motion. Initial plane
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Report NCSTAR1-2: Center of mass of the plane is estimated before and after
collision. The separation between the two points is only ~75% of the initial
plane length.</b></span></div>
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If the CGI "no-plane theory" is correct and it's the nose of a computer generated plane animation that can be seen exiting the opposite side of the tower in the FOX Chopper footage, then why doesn't the nose hold it's shape? <b>The alleged nose can clearly be seen morphing and expanding as it exits. An animated plane graphic would not do that, especially if it was an editing blunder that was never intended to be seen. </b></div>
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<b>Below: The exiting "nose" is compared with the plane's nose prior to impact. </b></h3>
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<b>If it's not the nose, then what is it? How about looking at it from more than just ONE angle?</b></h3>
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It's impossible that the nose could have survived intact. What's seen exiting the tower is obviously not a CGI animation. It's real. The ejection and it's shadow are consistently visible from numerous angles, including those from live broadcasts. When ALL the video evidence is considered, it is very clear that the alleged "nose out" is nothing but a debris cloud exploding out of the north-east corner of the tower (including engine and landing gear), the same kind of debris cloud seen exploding out of the east face.</h3>
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Below you'll find a list of some of the false
claims, distortions, and misrepresentations found in Ace Baker's (a.k.a. Collin
Alexander) specious 9/11 conspiracy film series entitled</span><span class="apple-converted-space" style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><i style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEA05F393EC843D80" target="_blank">9/11 - The Great American Psy-Opera</a> (</i><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">specifically chapters <i><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJU55FzcM2A" target="_blank">06 What Planes?</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds" target="_blank">07 The Key</a>)</i></span><i style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </i><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">which asserts that the video footage of the airplane attacks on the World Trade Center (all of it) is fake--fabrications of
the American Government and complicit news media as part of a false-flag
operation to deceive Americans and fellow world citizens. </span></span><br />
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<b><span style="color: #c00000; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 12.5pt;">Lies from </span></b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds"><b><i><span style="color: #c00000; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 12.5pt;">07 The
Key</span></i></b></a><b><i><span style="color: #c00000; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 12.5pt;">:</span></i></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#3_live_videos"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Only <b>three</b> <b>airplane
videos</b> are confirmed to have been shown <b>live</b>.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-nose-out-fallacy.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">In the footage of the second plane impact, <b>the undamaged nose of the plane can be seen exiting the opposite side of the tower</b>.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#fake_CGI_plane"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">The live FOX Chopper5 video contains an editing mistake which reveals that<b> a fake CGI airplane was added to the live video feed</b>.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#no_plane_in_wide-shot"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">There is <b>no
plane in the wide shot</b> in the Chopper5 video prior to the camera
zooming-in as the chopper approaches the towers.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#ghost_plane_hole"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">The Hezarkhani footage
shows <b>a big gaping hole</b> that appeared after the fuel
explosion and is larger than the initial impact damage area.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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and Hezarkhani videos.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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airplane videos have <b>reduced picture quality</b> in order to
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and in the FDNY and EMT accounts, there's <b>only one person</b> who saw the plane, heard it, and watched it
crash.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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airplane debris</b> below the impacts.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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plane through the South Tower exhibits <b>impossible, "cartoon
physics"</b> that violate Newton's laws.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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video is stabilized, <b>the plane's motion becomes jittery</b>,
proving that it's an inserted animation.</span></a><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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University <b>will not release their data</b> used in their
animated computer simulation of the plane impacting the North
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<a name='more'></a><b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#3_live_videos" name="3_live_videos"><span style="color: #cc0000;">Only THREE 9/11 airplane videos are confirmed to have been shown LIVE.</span></a> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">- From <a href="http://youtu.be/Rml2TL5N8ds?t=3m30s" target="_blank"><i>07 The Key</i> (at 3:30).</a></span><br />
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<b><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE. </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">In fact, this claim
is simply an absolute lie. There were at least <b>seven</b> national
and/or local (or locally affiliated) news stations broadcasting LIVE coverage
on the morning of 9/11/2001, including ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX, WB11, and local
NY1. <b>six</b> of those stations captured the second plane while
broadcasting live that morning. and one of those networks, CBS captured the
plane with two different live cameras while switching.<b> </b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><b>This means that <i>seven</i> different news cameras captured the plane while broadcasting LIVE, not "three" as Ace claims.</b> </span><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">So why does Ace baker claim that only <i>three</i> are confirmed to
have been shown live? What he means is that <b>only three video clips have
been confirmed to have been shown live by <i>him</i>, </b>because<b> only
three of the live clips will work with his fake airplane/composite theory.</b></span><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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asserts that the three live clips "just so happen" to have the
necessary attributes which would make live video compositing possible and allow
the insertion of a fake, computer animated, airplane into the live video
feeds. Those necessary attributes are:</span></div>
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<li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">"Steady camera" with no panning, tilting, or zooming.</span></li>
<li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Airplane path is across sky only.</span></li>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Ace states that, "<b>Absent any one of
these, inserting a fake airplane LIVE, in real time, becomes impossible</b>".</span><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">He then asks, "<b>What are the odds
that this occurred by chance</b>?" It becomes clear how
ridiculous this question is, when you take the time to discover that Ace</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> <b><span style="background: white;">cherry-picked</span></b> <span style="background: white;">the clips that he says are "confirmed to have been shown
live". So the odds are 100% because</span> <b>he</b><span style="background-color: white; font-weight: bold;"> arbitrarily chose which clips are
"real", ignoring everything else. </span></span><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Below are clips from the three LIVE broadcasts which,
according to Ace, "</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">are confirmed to have been shown
live" and <span style="background-color: white;">allegedly contain all of the necessary attributes for live compositing<u>:</u></span></span></b><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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that, despite Ace's assertion that this shot was "put together
nicely", <b>it </b></span><i style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><b>also</b></i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><b> clearly shows the alleged
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the "perps" make the same composting error twice? Or
is the alleged "nose-out" showing something real?</span></li>
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<b><span style="background: white; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">WB11 (Local WPIX):</span></b><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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replays</b></span></a></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#fox_chopper_replays"><span style="color: #cc0000;"> <b><span style="background: white;">of the Chopper5
footage</span> </b></span></a><span style="background-color: white;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#fox_chopper_replays" target="_blank"><span style="color: #cc0000;"><b>aired on FOX throughout the day on 9/11, footage Ace claims was "flushed and never seen again"</b></span></a><span style="color: #333333;">.</span></span><span style="color: #333333;"> </span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "calibri" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="https://youtu.be/HTWphdBsjJw?t=1m51s" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">See it here</a> <span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 15.3333330154419px; line-height: 21.3333339691162px;">and</span><b> </b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2HSng9iI-Q" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">here</a></span></span><span style="background: white; color: #333333; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> at </span><span style="font-family: "calibri" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2HSng9iI-Q&t=14m42s" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">14:45</span></a></span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">,</span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "calibri" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2HSng9iI-Q&t=32m05s" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">32:10</span></a></span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">,</span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "calibri" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2HSng9iI-Q&t=52m20s" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">52:24</span></a></span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">, and</span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "calibri" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://youtu.be/y2HSng9iI-Q?t=1h14m6s" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">1:14:10</span></a></span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">. Seems
they didn't mind replaying their self-incriminating "mistake" over
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Notice that ONLY the WB11 clip was shot with a stable camera. The others were
filmed using chopper-mounted cameras which were never truly "steady".
So while there may not be any intentional "</span><span style="background: white; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">panning,
tilting, or zooming" at the moment of impact,<b> the towers are never stationary within the frame</b>.
This makes these shots unusable for live compositing, and Ace ignores not
only the potential problems, but the real ones as well, such as how
the plane hits the building at exactly the correct floors while the towers
are drifting in the frame. </span><br />
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(national broadcast) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJO1Y0bCykk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJO1Y0bCykk</a><br />
(CBS2 NY local broadcast) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POALezpF9SY" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POALezpF9SY</a><br />
(Raw from Queens) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A9YVlk3WSI" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A9YVlk3WSI</a> </span><br />
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<li><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Notice
that both of these live camera shots do not meet the necessary
criteria for live compositing, because there is not </span><i style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">h<span style="background: white;">igh contrast between tower and sky.</span> </i><span style="background: white; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">This is why Ace does not include them in the
"confirmed to have been shown live" category even though <b>there is absolutely no evidence that they were not shown live</b>. </span></li>
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<li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Does Ace believe that CBS was not covering the
WTC attacks live? Of course they were. What then does he believe they were
broadcasting at the time of the second strike? Can he provide that for us?
Can he provide ANY proof that this clip was not shown live? Of course he
can't. If he could he would, so he simply ignores it. </span></li>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">(local broadcast):<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjUUSbWk60M" target="_blank"> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjUUSbWk60M</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">(national broadcast): <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xomUzh3QOg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xomUzh3QOg</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">(RAW chopper footage): <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAlA-H4QJRo" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAlA-H4QJRo</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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(<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 10.5pt;">LIVE Chopper4 close-up. Yes, it's a plane.</span>)</div>
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that this clip fails to meet <b>three</b> criteria for live
compositing, including:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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NOT a "steady camera" with no panning, tilting, or zooming
(it's another chopper camera that's moving AND zooming with the plane in
view).<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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why does Ace ignore this footage? There is NO reason to believe the NBC
chopper footage was not broadcast live. The reason he ignores it is
because it doesn't work with his contrived luma-key/composite
theory. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<li><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">This live clip would not work with Ace's theory, again, because there's not enough </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; line-height: 21.33px;">contrast</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> between tower and sky. </span></li>
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<li><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">This clip, in full resolution format, has the longest
view of the plane--25 seconds. For more info on this clip and ALL existing 9/11
airplane videos go to: </span><a href="http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;" target="_blank">http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html</a></li>
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<b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#fake_CGI_plane" name="fake_CGI_plane"><span style="color: #cc0000;">The FOX Chopper5 video contains an editing mistake which reveals that a fake CGI airplane was added to the LIVE video feed.</span></a> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 18.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">-<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">From<span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: windowtext;"> </span></span><i><a href="http://youtu.be/Rml2TL5N8ds" target="_blank">07 The Key</a></i></span></span><br />
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<b><span style="background: white; color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE. </span></b><span style="background: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">This supposed
mistake has become known as the "nose-out" mistake or "<span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; font-size: 10pt;">Pinocchio's</span><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; font-size: 11.5pt;"> nose" and Ace Baker refers to this
alleged mistake as "The KEY to solving 9/11"</span> in <i><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds" target="_blank"><span style="color: #888888;">07 - The Key</span></a>. </i></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Baker claims that this "mistake" is a smoking-gun which proves
that the 9/11 airplane attacks were faked and never happened. The
"key" he's referring to is a video editing tool called a
"luma-key" which he alleges was used by the TV news media to fabricate LIVE composite videos of the WTC attacks that contain fake
CGI airplane animations. Despite his elaborate efforts to sell this theory, however, it fails miserably for several reasons:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<li><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">As mentioned above, a luma key will only work if the original video
comprises </span><i style="color: #666666; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">all </i><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">the required attributes.
As also explained, </span><b style="color: #666666; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">only three</b><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">
of the </span><b style="color: #666666; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">seven</b><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"> live airplane videos </span><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">contained those attributes. Ace Baker's luma-key theory, therefore, </span><b style="color: #666666; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><i>cannot be correct</i></b><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"> since
it can't explain or account for the other four existing live clips that captured the 2nd plane.</span></li>
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<li><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif;"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt;">The supposed smoking gun of Baker's "theory", the alleged nose-out "mistake" (a.k.a. "</span><span style="font-size: 15.3333330154419px;">Pinocchio's</span><span style="font-size: 11.5pt;"> nose"),
hangs on the assumption that the apparent nose-shaped "object" observed
exiting the north side of Tower 2 during the impact explosion, is indeed
the </span></span><i style="color: #666666; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">intact </i><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">nose of the plane. But this
assumption is wrong, because it is derived from observing only a small sample of
cherry-picked video clips. When </span><b style="color: #666666; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><i>all </i></b><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">of the video footage of the plane's impact is examined and considered, it becomes quite obvious that the "nose"
of the plane is actually an ejection cloud of
dust, smoke, and debris. See for yourself </span><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-nose-out-fallacy.html" target="_blank"><b style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><i><span style="color: blue;">here</span></i></b><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">.</span></a></li>
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<li><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif;"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Even if one were stubborn enough to ignore the<b>
</b>above two fatal flaws in Baker's "theory", it <i>still</i> fails absolutely. Why? Because the
theory has a technical flaw, one that Baker himself has acknowledged but chose
to hide from his audience. The flaw is this: The use of a luma-key,<b> </b>for the
purpose of adding a fake plane animation to the live video, <b>cannot accurately
replicate</b> <b>what is seen in the live FOX footage of the 2nd plane
impact. </b>The flaw is a <i>dead giveaway </i>that proves a luma-key was not used in the live FOX Chopper5 footage as Baker has alleged.</span></span></li>
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Here is an explanation</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="background: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> <b>of the technical
flaw in Baker's luma-key "theory" </b></span></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">(or just skip to the video explanation below): </span></b><br />
<span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">If a luma key had been used on the live Fox
Chopper video footage, the exiting "nose" of the alleged animated CGI
airplane would be visible </span><b style="color: #666666; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">on top of</b><span style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"> (in front of) the
explosion exiting the tower. A luma-key works off of the luminance (brightness)
within the video signal. In order to see an airplane animation that has been
sandwiched in between two duplicate layers of video from the same camera feed
(3 layers altogether), the top layer would require portions of the image to be
cut out, revealing the added airplane layer underneath. When this is done using
a luma-key, a predetermined brightness threshold (limit) is set which will
prevent any portion of the video image from showing that is brighter than
that threshold, making those brighter portions disappear completely.
In this case, the brightness threshold would have to be set to a point
where it would eliminate the entire sky background (of the top layer only)
while leaving the darker Twin Towers intact. The catch is that the flame,
caused by the fuel explosion that erupts from the opposite side of the tower,
is as bright as the sky. This means that the flame would also disappear just as
the sky does, revealing the layer behind it which supposedly contains the animated
plane and it's protruding nose. </span><b style="color: #666666; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">The fact that the flame does NOT
disappear, that we see it covering and obscuring the "nose" of the
plane, is proof that a luma key was not used.</b></div>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">In the video below, I
demonstrate why the flame-over-nose in the live Fox chopper footage is a dead giveaway that Ace's
luma-key theory is impossible. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif;"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Ace maintains that ALL the video clips of the 2nd plane that were broadcast live were fabricated using this luma-key compositing method, and that</span><b style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> it's the only way it could have been done.</b><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> Since I demonstrate by exactly replicating Ace's work that it contains an </span><span style="font-size: 15.3333330154419px; line-height: 21.3333339691162px;">irreconcilable flaw which is observable in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeXvMblFwO0" target="_blank">his own video</a></span><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">--AND--considering that he ignored live video which, by his own criteria, would not work for live compositing, it's safe to say that </span><b style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Ace has debunked himself</b><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> and that the LIVE video clips of the 2nd plane are indeed real.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Please be aware that </span><b style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Ace
himself acknowledges that the point I make here rgarding the luma-key is
correct</b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">, and so he attempts to explain away the problem with a contrived
back-story. </span><a href="http://acebaker.blogspot.com/2009/08/plane-in-wide-shot-strengthens-case.html" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;" target="_blank">Read his excuse on his own research blog:</a><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><br />
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to ACE--isn't the FOX Chopper5 footage supposed to be genuine footage that
"has been confirmed to have been shown LIVE" and which reveals a
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he's back-pedaling, <b>claiming that the genuine live Fox chopper footage
is <i>not</i> genuine live footage!</b> He says it was altered to cover the
mistake. It's just that when the perps covered the mistake, they didn't really
cover it, they just tried to make it look like it was supposed to be there by
adding a little flame to it (apparently thinking nobody would wonder how the
nose survived intact, or where it went after coming out the opposite
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means that the "perps" must have just simply <i>hoped</i> that
nobody out there (among the millions of potential audience members) was
recording the live broadcast who would have ended up with an incriminating copy
of the "real" live footage (which--amazingly--worked out for them
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no wonder why Ace didn't include <i>any</i> of this information in his video. It makes
no frigging sense.</span><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span></b><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">If you
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correct and it's the "nose" of a computer generated plane animation
that can be seen exiting the opposite side of the tower, then <b>why doesn't
the nose <i>hold its shape?</i></b></span><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-nose-out-fallacy.html" target="_blank"><b><span style="color: blue;">The alleged nose </span></b></a>can clearly be see
morphing and expanding as it exits<b>. A computer generated graphic would not
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<span style="background-color: #ffe599; font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; line-height: 21.33px;"><a href="http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html" target="_blank">http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html</a> </span><br />
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<span style="line-height: 21.33px;">Find out about the <b>MANY existing still photos of the second plane</b> here:</span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; line-height: 21.33px;"><a href="http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit_photos.html" style="background-color: #ffe599;" target="_blank">http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit_photos.html</a></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: #ffe599; font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; line-height: 21.33px;">Watch my YouTube Amateur Video Playlist here:</span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; line-height: 21.33px;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk1HVK2Mg1KcS_Y3_xJmLxQfabVEvOEUG" style="background-color: #ffe599;" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk1HVK2Mg1KcS_Y3_xJmLxQfabVEvOEUG</a></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#no_plane_in_wide-shot" name="no_plane_in_wide-shot"><span style="color: #cc0000;">There is NO PLANE IN THE WIDE SHOT in the Chopper5 video prior to the camera zooming-in as the chopper approaches the towers.</span></a></span></b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;">- </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;">From <a href="http://youtu.be/Rml2TL5N8ds?t=5m46s" target="_blank"><i>07 The Key</i> (at 5:46)</a></span><br />
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<b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE.</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">In fact,</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://acebaker.blogspot.com/2009/08/plane-in-wide-shot-strengthens-case.html" target="_blank">Ace admitted that that he was wrong about this</a></span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">back in August of 2009 on</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><a href="http://acebaker.blogspot.com/2009/08/plane-in-wide-shot-strengthens-case.html" target="_blank">his own Blog</a>. Yet he continues to
propagate this lie in</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><i style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds">07 - The Key</a>,</span></i><i style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span></i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">the latest version of
which was published on YouTube by Ace himself on May, 29, 2012, <b><i>three</i> years
after admitting he was wrong</b>. He has made no effort to correct or amend the
error, instead continuing to use this fallacy to prop his flimsy argument and
mislead his audience. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://vimeo.com/85618628" target="_blank">9/11: United 175 CGI Plane Theory Debunked</a></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">from</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://vimeo.com/blisterhiker" target="_blank">BlisterHiker</a></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">on</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/" target="_blank">Vimeo</a>.<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 12.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsXpNymaHBI" target="_blank">Plane in wide shot in HQ copy of original live Fox chopper clip.</a></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#chopper5_stabilized" name="chopper5_stabilized"><span style="color: #cc0000;">When the FOX Chopper5 video is stabilized, the plane's motion becomes jittery, proving that it's a fake animation inserted into the footage.</span></a> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><b>- </b>From <a href="http://youtu.be/YJU55FzcM2A?t=16m8s" target="_blank"><i>o6What Planes?</i> (at 16:08)</a></span><br />
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of the video clip is flawed. You can easily tell by how jittery the station ID banner
looks in his stabilized footage. The I.D. banner, being a graphic overlay, serves as a perfectly stable point of reference. When Ace stabilizes the towers in the clip, the station I.D. graphic should have no more movement than did the buildings in the original clip. It should move in exactly the same manner, but in the reverse direction. However, in his "stabilized" clip, the station I.D. graphic is extremely jittery with <i>exaggerated</i> movement as compared to the original camera motion. The towers (and other buildings in the frame) were not jittery like that in the
original shot. This tells you his stabilization process was flawed. When done more accurately,
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#reduced_picture_quality" name="reduced_picture_quality"><span style="color: #cc0000;">All existing 9/11 airplane videos have reduced picture quality in order to "hide the messy fingerprints of the compositing process".</span></a> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">- From <a href="http://youtu.be/Rml2TL5N8ds?t=40m51s" target="_blank">07The Key (at 40:51)</a></span><br />
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<b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">. This is just another lie. And Ace continues to perpetuate it to this day. Numerous clips are
available by way of a FOIA petition filed in 2010 by the</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><a href="http://ic911studies.org/Projects.html" target="_blank">International Center For 9/11 Studies</a>.</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Hundreds of 9/11
videos (including dozens of the plane) have been released and are available to
the public for <i>free</i> via the</span></b><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span></b><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">The 9/11 Dataset
Project</span></i></b><i style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span></i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">at <a href="http://911datasets.org/" target="_blank">http://911datasets.org/</a>. </span><br />
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In January of 2011, The Dataset Project published</span><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span></b><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://911datasets.org/index.php/NIST_FOIA_09-42_-_ic911studies.org_-_Release_14" target="_blank">Release #14</a></span></b><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">comprising<b> 942GB of
video in original, full resolution, uncompressed, DV format, </b>including numerous
video clips of the 2nd plane.</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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For convenience, I have compiled many of the original quality
airplane clips in one place for easy download. Though most of these clips are available in high quality for viewing on YouTube (see link to playlist below) keep in mind that <b>all YouTube videos are compressed</b>. Original format files are much too large for
online streaming, so if you really want to see the</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">original quality</span></i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">, you will have to
download the large AVI files.</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8b6d6486586172bdab6a" target="_blank">Get the clips here</a></span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">:<br />
<a href="https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8b6d6486586172bdab6a" target="_blank">https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8b6d6486586172bdab6a</a> <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Get more info about the video footage released by The Dataset Project at </span><span style="line-height: 21.33px;"><a href="http://www.911conspiracy.tv/" target="_blank">911conspiracy.tv</a> which has a <a href="http://www.911conspiracy.tv/NIST_FOIA.html" target="_blank">NIST FOIA Map</a>:</span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><span style="line-height: 21.33px;"><a href="http://www.911conspiracy.tv/NIST_FOIA.html" target="_blank">http://www.911conspiracy.tv/NIST_FOIA.html</a></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><i>Ace Baker knows about these clips, but refuses to acknowledge them. In fact, it
appears that he may have used some of them in his own videos, yet he maintains
that he "offers a $100,000 reward to anyone who has an ORIGINAL
QUALITY 9/11 airplane video". Obviously this is nothing more than a ploy
and is a complete joke.</i></span></span><br />
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<b>clips</b> are also available for download from the </span><a href="http://wtcdata.nist.gov/" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">NIST WTC Data Repository</a><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> at: </span><a href="http://wtcdata.nist.gov/" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">http://wtcdata.nist.gov/</a></li>
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be viewed on YouTube on the following channels:</span></li>
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<li style="line-height: 16pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_N3X1lTRH2Q37e5_e0G2nQ" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;" target="_blank">TheMKMonarch</a></li>
<li style="line-height: 16pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/WTC911demolition" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;" target="_blank">WTC911demolition</a></li>
<li style="line-height: 16pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/CTV911" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%;" target="_blank">CTV911</a></li>
<li><span style="line-height: 21.3333339691162px;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/relapsed1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;">relapsed1</span></a></span></li>
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#few_eyewitnesses" name="few_eyewitnesses"><span style="color: #cc0000;">There were very few eyewitnesses, and when looking through the FDNY and EMT accounts, you find only ONE person who said they saw the plane, heard it, and watched it crash.</span></a> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">- Morgan Reynolds from <i><a href="http://youtu.be/YJU55FzcM2A?t=53s" target="_blank">06 - What Planes?</a> </i>(paraphrased).</span><br />
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<b><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">. This is another outright lie and reveals the shameless dishonesty of both Ace Baker and Morgan Reynolds.</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><i>Numerous</i> first-responders
testified unequivocally that they saw with their own eyes (and heard) the second plane.</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Several also reported
seeing airplane parts and debris. Taken directly from the the</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html" target="_blank">9/11 Oral History Records</a>, I have
compiled quotes from those first-responder eyewitnesses. Take a look for
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#ghost_plane_hole" name="ghost_plane_hole"><span style="color: #cc0000;">The Michael Hezarkhani footage ("ghost-plane" video) shows a big gaping hole that appeared AFTER the fuel explosion and is larger than the initial damage area of the impact, something that cannot be explained by the fuel explosion.</span></a></span></b>
<b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; font-weight: bold; line-height: 16pt;">-</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; font-weight: bold; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">From <a href="http://youtu.be/Rml2TL5N8ds?t=23m38s" target="_blank"><i>07 The Key </i>(at 23:39)</a></span><br />
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<b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">. <b>Two points to be
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">1.<span style="font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">First of all, the
size of the impact damage doesn't really increase following the fuel explosion. <b>Ace
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">2.<span style="font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Secondly, the low resolution
of the video fails to show the detail of the impact hole. When compared to a
higher resolution photograph, it becomes clear that the "gaping
hole" is not so gaping.<b> Much of what looks like a hole in the video is
simply where the outer aluminum cladding was blown off of the exterior of the
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#no_plane_debris" name="no_plane_debris"><span style="color: #cc0000;">There was no airplane debris below the impact zone.</span></a></span><span style="font-family: "verdana" , sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">- Morgan
Reynolds from <a href="http://youtu.be/YJU55FzcM2A?t=1m43s" target="_blank"><i>06 - What Planes?</i> at1:43</a><i> </i>(paraphrased).</span><br />
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<b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE.</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Physical and
photographic evidence from the scene along with eyewitness testimonies tell a
different story.</span><br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Piece of fuselage from UA175 found on the roof of WTC5 apparently showing <br />
a portion of the plane's registration number as seen below (N612UA).</td></tr>
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<a href="https://www.filesanywhere.com/FS/M.aspx?v=8c6f62885998a47ca79b" target="_blank">Photographed south of WTC1 at the intersection of Cedar and West St. </a></td></tr>
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<b>See more physical evidence here:</b> </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: large; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><a href="https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/aircraftpartsnyc911" target="_blank">Evidence of Airplane Debris from the WTC</a></span><br />
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"puffballs" from the plane's impacting engines </span></b></a><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#puff_balls"><span style="color: #cc0000;">appear above the wings in one clip, but appear below the wings in the other.</span></a> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">- From </span><a href="http://youtu.be/Rml2TL5N8ds?t=32m8s" style="line-height: 16pt;" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">07 The Key (at32:08)</span></a></div>
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<b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">. What
Ace ignores is the presence of a shadow being cast onto the building's south
face due to the easterly position of the sun. It is clear
that this is happening since the east face of the building is in direct
sunlight. Because of the sun's position,<b> the shadow
on the south face would have a wedge-shape in relation to the building.</b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">The above images are taken
from a<a href="http://911physicstruth.blogspot.com/2010/05/no-obvious-mask.html" target="_blank"> blog entitled</a> </span><i style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><a href="http://911physicstruth.blogspot.com/2010/05/no-obvious-mask.html" target="_blank">9/11Physics Truth</a></i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">. The author gets it exactly right. Just prior to the
plane impacting the tower, it enters the<b> shadow wedge</b> on the south face of the
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">From the position of Hezarkhani's camera (behind the impacting plane),
the "puffballs" appear as they should--below the
wings--exactly where the engine's impact the building. </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">From the
Fairbanks camera position (</span><i style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">underneath </i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">the
impacting plane), the visual effect of the shadow wedge comes into play. Only the extremities of the "puff balls" are lit by direct sunlight.
The rest of them are in the shadow, causing them to visually blend in with the shaded facade.
This creates the</span><i style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> illusion</i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> that
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Above gif's originally posted by Ragasaias at<a href="http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/1441498/3/" target="_blank"> pumpitout.com forum</a></td></tr>
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#cartoon_physics" name="cartoon_physics"><span style="color: #cc0000;">The impact and penetration of the 2nd plane into the South Tower as seen in video footage exhibits IMPOSSIBLE or "CARTOON" PHYSICS, and violates Newton's laws of motion.</span></a></span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">-</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">From</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><a href="http://youtu.be/YJU55FzcM2A?t=2m25s" target="_blank"><i>06 What Planes? </i>(at 2:25)</a></span><br />
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<b><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">—</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">a</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">t least
according to the numerous<span style="background-color: white;"><span style="color: #3d85c6;"> <a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/04/scientific-research-on-physics-of-world.html" target="_blank">independent teams of research physicists and engineers</a></span></span> who have actually studied the impacts, including
researchers from MIT's Crashworthiness Laboratory, The University of Akron,
Purdue University, Kajima Corp., etc. Detailed research using various
approaches and methods has been published by these researchers in various
peer-reviewed, professional and scientific journals. <b>All of the
research is in 100% agreement that what is seen in the video footage of the WTC
attacks is not only possible, but expected <i>according to the laws of physics</i></b>.</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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exists that supports the "impossible physics" claim? </span></b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">Answer: ZERO.</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: x-large;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/04/scientific-research-on-physics-of-world.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">Published Scientific Research on the Physics of the WorldTrade Center Airplane Impacts</span></a> </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">Ace Baker interviews <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Reynolds" target="_blank">Morgan Reynolds</a> about the impact
physics, someone who is <b>not a physicist </b>and who has no academic or professional background in applied physics. There's a reason why he doesn't
interview an actual physicist on the subject--<b>he can't find one that
would agree with him</b>. Even "truther" physicists <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWAnAf-tRVE" target="_blank">Dr. Steven Jones</a> and <a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/06/interpreting-boeing-767-deceleration_23.html" target="_blank">Dr. Gregory Jenkins have said that the no-planes "theory" is false</a>. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/07/911-no-planes-fail-blog-dr-judy-wood.html" style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;" target="_blank">Dr. Judy Wood</a><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">, perhaps the ONLY
"no-planer" qualified to actually address the subject (holding an advanced degree in applied physics), won't go
near it, instead focusing on energy weapons from space, the
dubious "Hutchinson Effect", and the role of off-shore hurricanes in
the destruction of the twin towers. The reason for this is no mystery. If she could </span><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21.33px;">demonstrate</span><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">, using physics, that the airplane penetrations of the Twin Towers were physically impossible, she would.</span></span><br />
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<b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">Morgan
Reynolds talks about "physics", but doesn't ever provide any scientific data.
What he offers are simply "</span></b><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><span style="color: blue;"><a href="http://corkskeptics.org/2011/05/03/the-common-sense-fallacy/" target="_blank">appeals to common sense</a></span></span></b><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">" and "</span></b><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><span style="color: blue;"><a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity" target="_blank">arguments from incredulity</a></span></span></b><b style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">", both of which are
logical fallacies and have nothing to do with physics</span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">.</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"> </span>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">–<span style="font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">If the
plane impacts, as seen in the video footage, truly exhibited a violation of
the laws physics, it shouldn't be too hard to prove. Physics is all about
mathematics. And math doesn't lie. <b>If it could be demonstrated,
scientifically, that the plane impacts are impossible <i>according to the laws of physics</i>, then proving 9/11 was an inside job is a slam dunk, because
there is no possible explanation other than media manipulation and
deception.</b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">–<span style="font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">If Ace
Baker, Morgan Reynolds, and others believe that ALL the existing published
research using mathematical and/or computer models is FALSE, <b>why don't
they try to prove it by funding their own research, creating their own
"accurate" scientific computer simulations</b> (as opposed to
producing rock music videos which serve no purpose but to try to slander people
who disagree with their point of view)?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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reason why the truth movement hasn't done this. They CAN'T. If they could, they
would. And the reason is that <b>their impossible physics claims cannot be
supported scientifically with physics. </b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">For more on WTC impact physics see:<br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUazHEBlDGI" target="_blank">Physicist Ryan Mackey's discussion of the WTC airplane impacts.</a></span></span><br />
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<a href="http://911myths.com/index.php/Ryan_Mackey" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">Ryan Mackey at www.911myths.com</span></a></span><span style="font-family: "" , serif , "" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "verdana" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html#purdue_data" name="purdue_data"><span style="color: #cc0000;">Purdue University will not release the data used in their animated computer simulation of the plane impacting the North Tower.</span></a></span><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "" sans-serif "" , "serif"; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;"><b>- </b>From <a href="http://youtu.be/YJU55FzcM2A?t=19m6s" target="_blank"><i>06 What Planes? </i>(at 19:06)</a></span><span style="color: #cc0000; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"> </span><br />
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<b><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FALSE. </span></b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 11.5pt;">Purdue researchers published
several articles containing data on the computer simulation project. Much
of the information can be found on <a href="https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase3/" target="_blank">Purdue's own webpage about the project.</a> You can find citations for
the published articles in the <a href="https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8b6d63865b6170ac73a3" target="_blank">above document link</a>. They include, "<a href="https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/distribution/PapersChron/WTC_I_Engineering_Perspective.pdf" target="_blank">Engineering Perspective of the Collapse of WTC-I.</a>" by Irfanoglu, A., &
Hoffmann, C. M., (2008), and "<a href="https://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/papers/popescu/popescuWTCVIS07.pdf" target="_blank">A high-quality, high-fidelity visualization of the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center</a>", Rosen,
Paul, et al. (2008). <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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However, the most comprehensive information on the modeling of the simulation
can be found in a doctoral dissertation published in 2008 by engineer Ingo
Brachmann entitled "<a href="http://gradworks.umi.com/cgi-bin/redirect?url=http://gateway.proquest.com/openurl%3furl_ver=Z39.88-2004%26res_dat=xri:pqdiss%26rft_val_fmt=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:dissertation%26rft_dat=xri:pqdiss:3373103" target="_blank">ON EFFICIENT MODELING OF HIGH-VELOCITY FLUID SOLID IMPACT</a>". Brachmann is
credited for "Engineering Models" and "Simulation Setups"
on the project. His dissertation comprises <b><a href="ftp://ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/ayhan/Korucu/NPDF_Ingo%20Brachmann%20thesis%20from%20Purdue%20library.pdf" target="_blank">347 pages of data</a></b> used
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<a href="http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200610/Salter.pdf" target="_blank">A Critical Review of WTC "No Plane" Theories (Salter 2006)</a> </div>
<span style="line-height: 21.33px;"><a href="http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/h/NPTrebuttal.pdf" target="_blank">Rebuttal of Ace Baker's "Chopper 5 Composite" Analysis (Salter 2007)</a></span><br />
<a href="http://www.rense.com/general94/911%20-%20The%20Absurdity%20of%20the%20No-Planes-in-New%20York%20Theory.pdf" target="_blank">9/11: The Absurdity of the No-Planes-in-New York Theory</a><br />
<a href="http://www.911myths.com/index.php/The_Flights" target="_blank">www.911myths.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.debunking911.com/index.html" target="_blank">Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories</a><br />
<a href="https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-pilots-for-9-11-truth-wtc-speeds.2942/" target="_blank">Debunked: Pilots for 9/11 truth WTC Speeds</a><br />
<a href="http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2009/07/debunking-september-clues-and-no-plane.html" target="_blank">Debunking "September Clues" and "No Plane" Theories</a><br />
<a href="http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/" target="_blank">The Pentagon Attack: What the Physical Evidence Shows</a><br />
<a href="http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/" target="_blank">American Airlines Flight 77 Evidence</a><br />
<a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/42181/the_idiocy_behind_the_'9_11_truth'_movement" target="_blank">The Idiocy Behind the '9/11 Truth' Movement</a><br />
<a href="http://www.butte.edu/departments/cas/tipsheets/thinking/conspiracy.html" target="_blank">Conspiracy Theory and Conspiracism</a><br />
<a href="http://www.butte.edu/departments/cas/tipsheets/thinking/fallacies.html" target="_blank">Fallacies and Propaganda</a><br />
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<br />Saul Tranehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15535710574469682823noreply@blogger.com125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5818122371845220982.post-76242748218638320772014-04-26T00:59:00.001-07:002014-12-17T23:34:08.857-08:00Published Scientific Research on the Physics of the World Trade Center Airplane Impacts<div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 16.0pt; margin-left: .25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; tab-stops: list .25in; text-indent: -.25in;">
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Wierzbicki, T., Xue, L., and Hendry-Brogan, M. (2002). "</span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter%20IV%20Aircraft%20Impact.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">Aircraft Impact Damage</span></a></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">", <i>The
Towers Lost and Beyond - A collection of essays on the WTC by researchers at
theMassachusetts Institute of Technology</i></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><a href="http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/"><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12pt;">,</span></a></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> Ed.
Eduardo Kausel, pages 31-63.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq" style="line-height: 16.0pt; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in;">
<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">"The external columns were
impacted at a very high speed and
the process is controlled mainly by local inertia. As the
fuselage and wings cut through the steel facade of the Towers, the
affected portions of the column sheared off. It was found that the
momentum transfer between the airframe and the first barrier of external
columns was responsible for most of the energy dissipated in this phase.
The energy to shear off the column constituted only a small fraction of that
energy."</span></blockquote>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Wierzbicki, T., Teng, X.(2003). "</span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8b6d678a59626ea86f9f" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">How the airplane wing cut through the exterior columns of the World Trade Center</span></a>",</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"> <i>International
Journal of Impact Engineering</i>, Volume 28, Issue 6, Pages 601-625,</span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"> <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0734-743X%2802%2900106-9" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">10.1016/S0734-743X(02)00106-9</span></a></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">"Using the exact dynamic solution in the membrane deformation
mode, the critical impact velocity to fracture the impacted flange was
calculated to be 155 m/s for both flat and round impacting mass. Therefore, the
wing would easily cut through the outer column."</span></blockquote>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Omika, Y., Fukuzawa, E., Koshika, N., Morikawa, H., and Fukuda, R.
(2005). ”</span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8b6d678a59627678b196" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">Structural Responses of World Trade Center under Aircraft Attacks.</span></a></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">” <i>Journal
of Structural Engineering,</i> Vol. 131, No. 1, Pages 6–15, </span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1061/(ASCE)0733-9445(2005)131:1(6)" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">10.1061/(ASCE)0733-9445(2005)131:1(6)</span></a></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">"Based on the results of the analysis using a detailed finite
element model, the damage situation of each structural component around
impacted stories and the destroyed components were evaluated. As a result, the
damage situation of the outer wall of WTC1 and WTC2 and the velocity reduction
curve of the aircraft for WTC2 showed good agreement with the actual
phenomena."</span></blockquote>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Karim, M. and Fatt, M. (2005). ”<a href="ftp://128.46.154.21/ayhan/Korucu/Karim%20and%20Fatt_(ASCE)0733-9399(2005)131_10(1066).pdf" target="_blank">Impact of the Boeing 767 Aircraft into the World Trade Center.</a></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;">”</span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <i>Journal
of Engineering Mechanics</i>, Volume 131, Issue 10, Pages 1066–1072, </span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/10.1061/(ASCE)0733-9399(2005)131:10(1066)" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">10.1061/(ASCE)0733-9399(2005)131:10(1066)</span></a></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">"When the aircraft impacts the building at the top speed
(240m/s) with a full fuel tank and the exterior columns have the original
column thickness of 9.5mm., it is observed that all columns fail and the
aircraft penetrates through the exterior wall. It was found that about 46% of
the initial kinetic energy of the aircraft was used to damage columns. The
minimum impact velocity of the aircraft to just penetrate the exterior columns
would be 130m/s. It was also found that a Boeing 767 traveling at top speed
would not penetrate exterior columns of the WTC if the columns were thicker
than 20mm."</span></blockquote>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Sadek, Fahim. (2005) "Federal Building and Fire Safety
Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster: </span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=101012" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">Baseline Structural Performance and Aircraft Impact Damage Analysis of the World Trade Center Towers</span></a><a href="http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=101012"><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">.</span></a></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">" (NIST NCSTAR 1-2).</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">"Figure 7-73 provides the results of a careful comparison
between the observed and calculated damage (from the base case analysis) on the
south wall of WTC 2. The comparison includes the mode, magnitude, and location
of failure around the hole created by the aircraft impact. The comparison
indicates that the overall agreement with the observed damage was very
good."</span></blockquote>
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Peterson, B., & Sadek, F. (2006). “<a href="http://www.dynalook.com/international-conf-2006/24ImpactAnalysis.pdf" target="_blank">Modeling Methodologies for Assessment of Aircraft Impact Damage to the World Trade Center Towers.</a>” <i>9th
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(Doctoral Dissertation). Purdue University. </span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="http://gradworks.umi.com/cgi-bin/redirect?url=http://gateway.proquest.com/openurl%3furl_ver=Z39.88-2004%26res_dat=xri:pqdiss%26rft_val_fmt=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:dissertation%26rft_dat=xri:pqdiss:3373103" target="_blank"><i><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">ProQuest Dissertations & Theses No. 3373103</span></i></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">"The modeling technique used in this study was tested using
data from tests of solids impacted by fluid (Chapter 2) and a concrete mass
impacted by an F4 aircraft (Chapters 3 and 4). The results of the tests were
all positive and provided the confidence to proceed on to the modeling of the
WTC-1 building and the Boeing 767 aircraft. . . The cuts on the North facade of
the WTC-1 seen in the photographs (Fig. 7.1 to 7.6) were similar to those
determined by calculations for the two models of the impacting aircraft (Fig.
7.8). . . Calculations using the detailed model and the E-model provided
satisfactory distributions of the damage observed on the damage to the north
facade of WTC-1."</span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;"></span></blockquote>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Irfanoglu, A., & Hoffmann, C. M. (2008). "</span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/distribution/PapersChron/WTC_I_Engineering_Perspective.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">Engineering Perspective of the Collapse of WTC-I.</span></a></span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><span style="color: #548dd4;">" </span><i>Journal Of Performance
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Engineering Reasoning under Uncertainty: Studying the Collapse of
WTC-1." <i>Computer-Aided Civil & Infrastructure Engineering</i>, <i>27</i>(1),
65-76. </span><span style="color: #548dd4; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;"><a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8667.2010.00700.x/abstract" target="_blank"><span style="color: #548dd4; mso-themecolor: text2; mso-themetint: 153;">10.1111/j.1467-8667.2010.00700.x</span></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 13.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Eyewitnesses to the Planes on 9/11</span></a><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">/</span><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> </span><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lies-of-ace-baker.html"><span style="color: #0066cc; font-family: "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">FAIL: The CGI Video
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<li><u style="line-height: 18pt;"><span style="background: white; font-family: '', serif, '', serif; font-size: 13pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/02/first-responder-eye-witnesses-of-planes.html#second_plane">First-Responder
Eyewitnesses of the Second Plane on 9/11</a></span></u></li>
<li><u style="line-height: 18pt;"><span style="background: white; font-family: '', serif, '', serif; font-size: 13pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/02/first-responder-eye-witnesses-of-planes.html#first_plane">First-Responder
Eyewitnesses of the First Plane on 9/11</a></span></u></li>
<li><u style="line-height: 18pt;"><span style="background: white; font-family: '', serif, '', serif; font-size: 13pt;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/02/first-responder-eye-witnesses-of-planes.html#plane_debris_witnesses">First-Responder
Eyewitnesses of Airplane Parts / Debris on 9/11</a></span></u></li>
<li><u><span style="background: white; font-family: '', serif, '', serif; font-size: 13pt; line-height: 115%;"><a href="http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/02/first-responder-eye-witnesses-of-planes.html#WTC_7">FDNY
Officers' Testimonies to the Condition of WTC7 on 9/11</a> </span></u><span style="background: white; font-family: '', serif, '', serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"> (<i>unrelated,
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"But then
we are driving and now we are like, we are about a half mile out, halfway from the
World Trade Center and we see this shiny object coming and me and my partner
are going, what the hell, what's wrong with that plane. What is wrong with that plane. There is
something not right with that plane. And
he just -- the tower blew."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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BERNTSEN (FDNY)</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"Okay. We heard the explosions from
the kitchen. We went up on the roof and got there just in time to see the
second plane hit the towers. So we figured we would be going on that.
So we ran downstairs. By the time we got down to the apparatus
floor, we got the ticket. It was about five after<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>9:00."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">E.M.T. DAVID BLACKSBERG (E.M.S.)</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">"We approached the building, and we heard
some loud noise. We felt some rumbling, so we looked up, and there was
another plane coming in. Went behind, I guess it banked around another
building, so at that time we didn't really see it hit the building, but we
heard it, and we felt it, and we saw it approaching."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
</span></span><a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110134.PDF" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110134.PDF</span></a><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">EMT GREGG BRADY (E.M.S.)</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">"At that time, we heard a lot of talking on
the radio and I got a call from Captain Mark Stone saying to load up vehicle
849, a Suburban, and be waiting for him downstairs. As he arrived, we
proceeded down to the north tower of World Trade Center. As we were
proceeding through the Battery Park tunnel, as we came out, we saw the second
plane hit the south tower. At that time, traffic was very dense and it was very
hard to get through."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
</span></span><a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110184.PDF" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110184.PDF</span></a><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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TIMOTHY BURKE</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"I got in at 8 o'clock in the
morning. The first plane had hit a little later. We watched it from the
roof of the building. Then they called us to a staging area around
quarter to nine I think which would be the Brooklyn battery tunnel. From
the Brooklyn battery tunnel staging area we watched the second plane come
in. As soon as the second plane came in they sent us
into the tunnel."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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could see the smoke blowing off the World Trade Center. Several moments later I
noticed a second plane and I commented to myself, look at this nitwit, he's so
close, and before I realized it, he had crashed into the side of the south
tower."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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"I set it up on the tripod in the window facing the Trade Center enclosing
the top of -- the top, more like where the cash area was and I started the tape
and as I was getting my fire gear ready looking out the window again, when we
saw the second plane crash into the second tower. I left the tape running and I
knew it was not an accident, you know, that this happened. So I gave Jim Murphy
a little instruction on how to change the tape and he left the tape
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<span style="background: white;">"I then went and did reconnaissance of the
exterior of the north tower. I saw we had numerous floors on the upper levels
on fire, approximately eight floors with fire showing. As I was going around
the far side of the north tower, I then saw the second plane hit the south
tower. I immediately went into the lobby of the north tower to take command of
operations."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">"I left my rollup and my standpipe kit in
the lobby. I went outside to the rig, changed the cylinder. While I was
changing the cylinder, I was keeping an eye because the chauffeur was hooking
up to the standpipe. I was keeping an eye, making sure he didn't get hit with
anything.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">It was at that time when I saw the second plane
hit the building. I called a mayday. I told them the second plane hit the south
tower of the building. I wasn't sure which floors it was, but I knew it hit the
upper floors of the south tower. </span>Debris was falling, body parts were
falling. We ducked for cover inside
Engine 7, but the rig was getting bombarded with debris from the building,
debris from the plane. We saw bodies crash landing right next to the rig. So we
couldn't stay there."</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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street, across Sixth Ave. to the west side of Sixth Avenue, to see Tower 2, and at the time Tower 2 was intact. It wasn't
touched yet. I looked down at my son and
I repeated to him I couldn't believe what was going on, and I told him, oh, my
god, and heard people calling oh my god, look, look, and as I looked up, the
second plane hit the second tower and there was a humongous fireball rolling up
the side of the building."<span style="color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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up the car, started heading across Church Street when we heard a roar of a jet
engine, as if it was taking off in flight and we couldn't help but look into
the sky to see exactly what it was and yes, it was a plane, just prior to
striking the building and the engines were revved up fully. From that you saw it actually piercing the
wall of the building with a large amount of fire coming from it."<span style="color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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second plane, we saw both towers on fire.
There was nobody on the West Side Highway after the second plane, just
us and the police following each other down.
We went straight through all the way down."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">EMT ALAN COOKE <span style="background: white;">(E.M.S.)</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"Somebody told me a plane crashed into the World Trade Center, so I thought it was a
small engine plane. When I get to the
parking lot and saw the first tower
burning. Then while I was standing in the parking lot, that's when I saw the plane
crash into the second tower. So my
partner and Victor Camile, we got our equipment together, got the bus checked
out and we were assigned to 333 Rector Street for an asthmatic. That's how we
ended up going into Manhattan."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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ALLEN CRUZ</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We both hear this rumble,
and I felt a vibration, we looked slightly to the left, all of us, there's a
whole bunch of us right next to my vehicle, and here comes this plane, a huge
plane. The lady next to me says Oh my God, it's gonna hit the building. I
didn't want to give her false information so I said Gee, I don't think so, well
I hope not. I mean we're looking at it sort of in three dimensions, so I'm
thinking it's gonna go behind the building. From where we're standing, it's
gonna go right behind it, but it was too big and far too low. At that moment I
said it's gonna hit, it's actually gonna hit. And it hit."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">EMT SEAN CUNNIFFE</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"We were lined up on West Street, west
side, right by the pedestrian bridge, between six and one, over here somewhere.
I don't remember the supervisor's name, but they had us line up, put our
stretchers and equipment on it. We were just waiting for further instruction.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">As we were waiting there, counting the people
jumping, that's when we saw the scope of it. We counted 39 people. It was sad.
That's when it stopped being exciting and reality kicked in and we were hanging
out.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">The second plane came in. It was the biggest
noise I ever heard in my life.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Q. Did you see the plane?</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">A. Yeah. We saw it, we heard it, we felt the
heat from it, the debris. We ducked under a truck..."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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DARNOWSKI:</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"Right before the tolls on the Brooklyn
side heading towards Manhattan at the Battery Tunnel, we were sitting in
traffic and we watched United Flight 175 hit tower two, which was the south
tower of the World Trade Center.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">At that time everybody was just in shock. The
firefighters and I were just really trying to get through the traffic when the
plane hit, and we were just standing there in like awe of what was happening."</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">EMT MICHAEL D'ANGELO <span style="background: white;">(E.M.S.)</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"Then as I made it through traffic and I was going over the BQE
extension to get back on to the Battery Tunnel, I looked and I saw the second
plane hit the building. I then made a
round, I made my way into a line of fire trucks using my identification and
went into the Battery Tunnel."<span style="color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">LIEUTENANT RENE
DAVILA (EMS)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"Then as
I'm communicating I catch from my peripheral vision on the right--I didn't even
think about it hitting the building.
I'm just basically like what the
hell is he doing there. Before I knew it, he disappeared behind the building,
and bingo, there was an explosion."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"When the second plane hit, I was still in Brooklyn. I was trying to get through the tunnel on
Hamilton Avenue. We saw the plane, but I
never saw it hit. I remember saying to
myself, boy, that guy is awful low in the pattern. I remember saying something really stupid
like, you know, did he come down to see what happened with the first one? It never dawned on me that he was heading for
the other tower, but that's where it was headed."<span style="color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">CAPTAIN KARIN DESHORE
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">It is my recollection
that we drove northern boulevard to the 59 street bridge. At the beginning of
the 59 Street bridge, the second airliner hit and we witnessed it.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We started
heading down there towards Manhattan. We
were at the Bruckner Interchange when I saw the second plane hit the second
tower."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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say right around that time while we were right under here, under the westside
highway and pedestrian bridge, I seen second plane coming. I'm thinking isn't
that plane too low? I'm like . . . then I noticed, I seen it turn. It turned
and went right in the building. But we're behind, like this is the building, it
went in, and you see the explosion in the front . . .<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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sat there with my mouth open like Oh My God, Oh My God."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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THOMAS GABY</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">Q. The second plane?</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">A. I saw it coming in, I heard it, and bang, it
hit.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">FIREFIGHTER JOSEPH GALASSO</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">"After the first plane hit, we were here,
actually. We could see the towers actually from here. So after the first plane
hit, we saw it on the news. So we came up here to look out the window, and we
saw it. We watched the second plane hit. Just as the second plane hit, that's when
we received the alarm."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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GOMBO (EMS)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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than, I don't know, it seemed like a few minutes -- and I have to just share
with you at this point, my times might be off.
At the corner of my eye, the second plane now comes into the
building."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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GSCHLECHT<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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we got to chambers street by the college, we saw the second plane hit the World
Trade Center. I told my partner slow down and wait to see if the building was
going to collapse right away, because you could see it swaying."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"At approx. 0850 we arrived at the scene and positioned RMP on south bound West in front of the World Financial Center, adjacent to VIP drive. The undersigned approached Capt. Whittaker at our location and advised him of our presence. The above officers along with the undersignedd began administering first aid to numerous victims suffering from various degrees of injury. During this time NYPD, NYFD, and EMS units began arriving and staging in the area of West St. While assisting a female burn victim, I observed PO Rivero look up towards the WTC tower #2. At this time the undersigned heard the sound of jet engines and observed an aircraft with a blue color tail fly directly into the south face of WTC Tower # 2. Following the impact an enormous explosion occurred causing debris to begin to fall down all around the WTC complex."</span><br />
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HARRILAL<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"There was
a second plane circling the building and I kept saying why is he so near the
building? Within minutes, before even talking about it, he just like slammed
into the second building."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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HARRIS<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"So as I'm
sitting there talking to Claude trying to figure out where he was responding
and what was going on, we happened to
look back at the Trade and we saw the second plane hit, bam."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">FIREFIGHTER MICHAEL HAZEL<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"On the way to the Battery Tunnel, we're driving along Columbia
Street and I'm sitting across from the proby, and as we're talking and I'm
preparing him for the events, what to expect at this job we're going to go to,
he just says to me, "Look at this dummy.
He's flying underneath the smoke instead of over it." With that I
turned to my right and looked at the Twin Towers and I saw the second jet
hit. So he started screaming and I just
said to him, "We're in big trouble.
This is an attack. We're being
attacked."<span style="color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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SCOTT HOLOWACH:</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"At that time, I started walking towards
Engine 3. Engine 3 drove south to the south pedestrian bridge to make a U turn
to come back and as I'm walking towards the Engine to find out what Lieutenant
Walsh wanted us to do, I heard the sound of a jet plane. I looked up and saw it
pretty close and I was like holy shit.
What's going on with the with the flight patterns. All of a sudden, the wings turned and it dove
right into the building and it was screwed up. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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Chief Ganci was behind me and he thought there was another explosion in the
north tower and that's when I turned around and said Chief, listen, there is a
second plane that hit the other tower. He was like no no no no, we have another
explosion. I said no, Chief, I witnessed it. I watched the plane hit the other
tower. He is like are you sure. I said Chief, I'm 100 hundred percent positive
I watched the second plane hit the other tower."</span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">BATTALION CHIEF ROBERT INGRAM (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We decided to set up a command post on the outside in the side
street on the west side of West Street over by the financial building. As we were out there trying to notify units,
we had radioed to position, we heard the second plane come in and observed it
hit the second building, south tower."<span style="color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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GEORGE KOZLOWSKI<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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got relieved after 0900, fireman Escofrery and
myself. We saw the plane coming over, sort of over quarters and then the
initial crash we heard the initial crash."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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LOPER (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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it's then that I was looking at the north tower that I saw what I thought
looked like a seagull in the distance almost and it went into the south tower
and the south tower exploded in a huge fire ball."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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LOUTSKY (E.M.S.)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"As I was going
back to my area which is a few blocks from the world trade center, I was
talking with my partner, Hank Ramos, and
saw in front of me while we were about—I would say around Pearl Street—we had a
view of the World Trade Center which was only a few blocks away. And I stopped
him and said to look at that plane, that it was flying extremely low, and that
it looked like it was about to hit. A few seconds later, it did hit."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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DOMINICK MAGGIORE (EMS) <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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on my way back to battalion 50 from BHS,
I saw the second plane hit the towers from the BQE. I came back to battalion 50
and got in the command car with Lisa Desena, one of the division ALS
coordinators, and paramedic Chris Lefkaditis, and we responded in."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white;">"I would say probably about maybe half hour
or so later, all of sudden we heard a roar and I looked at lieutenant Nevins
and he looked at me and we looked up and the next thing we knew, there was
another plane, and it crashed into the other tower."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">"So I went to the window on the seventh
floor, and I observed the Trade Center on fire. I stood there for a while, and
there was a lot of people at the window, firefighters, civilians, chiefs. The
next thing you know, we saw another plane hit the building. A ball of flame
came out, and actually the concussion shook our building. We felt the
concussion from it."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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saw when we first started to go over the Brooklyn Bridge, the building smoking,
tower one smoking, heavy black smoke coming out. Just as we came out of the
bridge, we could see again the towers also with the plane come and slam into
tower two."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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came. I hear a big rush, like a low
flying jet and I see a massive explosion. I hear a big rush, like a low flying
jet and I see a massive explosion.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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you can see the towers, you can see the smoke.
The buildings just look like a cigarette basically. When we get the call to go over the bridge
(I’m not too sure about the time) when we’re on the bridge there’s plenty of
traffic. That’s when we noticed the
second plane hitting tower two. I just
couldn’t believe that that happened.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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TRACEY MULQUEEN <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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second plane came in. Basically the next
thing I remember after that was we had all of our office's medical equipment on
a chair and we were running out the building.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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"I went back upstairs because I wanted to get something out of my bag.
Maybe about 10 to 12-minutes after that first plane, I heard another plane.
Then I said to myself, we're being attacked. I ran downstairs. No sooner did I
run downstairs and look up, that I saw the second plane strike the south tower.
It was such a vicious hit and such a precision hit, it was unbelievable."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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JAMES MURPHY:</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"After that I ran up to the roof on the
third floor with me and Eric Bernsten. We were watching it. We could see it
from here. We have an unobstructed view. The other guys came up too. All six of
us were on the roof...</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Then we saw the second one come up. It looked
like it was coming up the East River from here. I guess it was coming from the
south. I thought it banked over the East River, which is what it looked like. I
thought it made a left over the East River and went right into it going from
east to west. But as it turns out, it came from the south. Then we saw it just
go right into the building and explode.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">I remember talking to Eric. I remember Eric
saying something, "Oh, my God, there's another plane." I was saying
to him, "That plane is closer to us. It's really not a big plane going
towards the building." Two seconds later it rammed into the building. You
don't expect it. We just freaked."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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STEVEN MOSIELLO</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"Yes, yes, the second plane hit. We
saw the second plane hit--if you want me to go back to when the second
plane hit. I was told by Chief Ingram, who was a terrorist and
hazmat-type guy, that we've got to be careful of secondary explosions or
secondary devices. Who knew that the secondary device would be another plane?
People actually saw the plane. You heard it, the closer it got. It
just got louder and louder. I say that he throttled up as fast as he
could. That's what it sounded like, but I think he became more in earshot
of us. And he just came in and put the plane into the building."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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DOMINICK MUSCHELLO</span><span style="background: white; color: blue; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"As we watched the fire from
the third floor, we saw the second plane fly right into the center of the
building clear as day."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white;">CHIEF OF THE DEPARTMENT DANIEL NIGRO (FDNY)</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">"At some point after our arrival and after
we had moved to the west side of West Street, I heard a loud roar of a jet, looked
up and saw the second plane impact the south tower. At that point it was clear
to me it was a terrorist attack. Earlier I didn't know what it was. I assumed
it was an accident."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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ROBERT NORRIS</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"We all got out of the rig, and we were
standing there. We watched another plane come in. I felt the plane was coming
underneath the pillar of smoke that was coming out of the first tower, but
obviously it veered into the tower, and it took another hit"</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
</span></span><a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110396.PDF" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110396.PDF</span></a><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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BRIAN O'FLAHERTY (FDNY)</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"Just then out of the corner of my eye, I
could see this plane. I just remember the dark. It was in the shadow. It looked
low. I thought, "What the heck is the guy doing?" I watched it,
watched him turn and crash right into the south tower. Right away I knew it was
terrorism or terrorists. I didn't know what the first one was, but I knew what
the second one was."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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OTTRANDO<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Battalion 2 in the lobby of the north tower.
After that I stayed there a few more minutes, and then I went out to my
company. We were stretching hose. I saw
the second plane hit the south tower."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"I remember
our normal routine in the morning, go get our breakfast, and we go sit and we
cover Red Hook, so we had the view of the city. We were sitting there, and we
were looking at the city. All of is sudden my partner says to me,
"Frankie, that plane seems to be low." </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">...and she
yells out, "Frank that plane just hit the building."<span style="background: white;">......We can't believe what's going on, and she says
-- and I remember my partner, Mala, saying again to me, "That other plane
is low." I don't know how much time, 10, 15 minutes, and we seen the other
plane hit."<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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PIERCE</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"...I watched eventually the second plane,
I saw it. It looked like it was circling around south, then came back north,
striking the south side of Tower No. 2."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
</span></span><a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110485.PDF" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110485.PDF</span></a><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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PINKUS (EMS) <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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attempted to get our stuff out of the vehicle and as we looked up we saw a
plane hit the second building and we noticed that there was large ball of flame
coming from the second building it was at this point that commissioner Gregory
directed EMT Harris to move the vehicle because there was debris fire basically
covering us on Vesey Street."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> "We arrived and parked our truck in front of #2 WTC. P.O. HALL and P.O. Niedermeyer and myself encountered several people that had been burned and a gentleman who stated he had two women who were burned badly. We took the two women and proceeded to stop an ambulance that was coming down West St. and put them in it. At this time I heard a loud roar as I looked up I saw a plane coming from the south I yelled 'Al look at this shit ' the plane smashed into W.T.C. #2."</span><br />
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THOMAS SPINARD <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"While we
were still in the middle of the street, another plane comes in, makes a big
circle, comes around from like the Statue of Liberty direction, and hits
two. We can't believe that another one
is coming in. Joey got on the radio,
"Another plane just hit the second tower." I don't know if he said mayday or what, but
he yelled "Another plane hit the second tower."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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STONE</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"We got in the truck, listening to reports
coming in on Citywide and we ended up taking the Battery Park Tunnel underneath
to come up on the West Street side of the incident. We came up right out of the
tunnel. I was looking up to see if I could do a little more initial size up.
That is when I saw the second plane hit the building. I just watched it coming
in.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">I see that the plane hit and I'm really thinking
for the safety of the members that we got operating already ..."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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JOSEPH SULLIVAN</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"Okay. We responded from quarters. The
ticket came in at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">8:54</span><span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">. We
were going on the first alarm to the staging area by the Brooklyn Battery
Tunnel. En route to the staging area, we were going down Columbia Street, saw
the second plane strike the building and we went from being a, quote, good job
or a rough job, or we were going to earn our money today."</span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
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FRANK SWEENEY<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">I remember the
lieutenant turned to Scott and I and said, "You know, this could be a
terrorist thing. Maybe it was a bomb or
something." I can't remember his
exact words. Shortly thereafter Scott said, "What's wrong with the flight
patterns around here?" I said,
"What are you talking about?"
And the south tower blew up.
Scott said, "That was a plane." I said, "Scott, it was not a plane. It
was probably another bomb." He
said, "No, I saw it. It was a
plane."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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TIMOTHY<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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thing I heard was a loud like an engine roar.
I looked up, and the next thing I knew I just saw -- I don't know if it
was the tail end of the plane or what, but I saw something. When I looked up, I heard "boom."
I'm sorry, the north tower was the first one. The south tower then got hit when
we were right there."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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ALBERT TURI (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> "I was putting on my pants and boots when
I heard something similar to the sound of a jet aircraft taking off, and when I
looked up I saw the impact of the second plane hitting the south tower and
immediately an enormous fireball erupted that actually masked the entire upper
half of the building and part of the north tower."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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THOMAS VALLEBUONA (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"So from
there we went down to the quarters of Marine 9, and we were watching across the
bay. We could see the fire in the North Tower, when the next plane that was
going to hit the South Tower flew over our heads".<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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JAMES WALSH (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-family: Narkisim;">"</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 115%;"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-family: Narkisim;">As I was coming up West Street, I started hearing
sounds getting very loud, and I never bothered to look back because the sound
got extremely loud. It was the roar of the jet plane, which I didn't really
know. It was the airliner coming in. I remember running back up West Street
towards where my chauffeur was from the high-rise rig, and running at the same
time I was trying to get down at the same time it seemed like.<br />
Then I heard the explosion, continued running up to Scott, and I said what was
that? I was under the impression that maybe it was a fighter plane because it
got so loud. He said, no, another airliner just hit the south tower. I turned
and looked and I could see all the damage already."</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-family: Narkisim;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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WRIGHT<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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one part that remember after that, that's when we started seeing people
starting to jump out. It was total—that was unreal, I tell you, to see people
jump from the top floor. A few minutes later, we had seen the second plane just
come in, go right through the second building."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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STEPHEN ZASA</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">"Upon that time I heard a plane roar. I had
my window down and on my side we saw a plane flying very low come right across
us and with a loud, you know, the engines revved up, and I had mentioned to
him, I had no idea that it was heading towards that way, and I just said like
where is this guy going, you know, he was extremely low, not realizing it was
another plane heading towards the World Trade, and we saw it struck the
building, we saw a big mushroom of flame, of fire coming up, and it was like
disbelief, and he had gotten on the radio and notified the dispatcher another
plane had struck the World Trade Center."</span><span style="color: blue;"><br />
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MIKE ZECHEWYTZ</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><br />
"I remember I was right by the TV set and I said, "That must have
been a drunk pilot." I mean, it was clear outside. So we were like,
"Wow, the guy must have had a few last night or something." So then
Roger Jackson and myself went out to the front to see the smoke. If you were in
front of the firehouse and you looked over to the right, you saw the smoke.
Then he called and he goes, "Zech." That's my nickname. He goes,
"Zech, look." and we saw the other plane going from left to right
with its nose down. So then we ran back in the kitchen, and then maybe 30
seconds later the news said that a bomb went off in the second building. But
then they saw in slow motion it was a plane."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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REYNOLDS</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"Which
eyewitness? Name one."</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-family: Narkisim;">"As we were taken up from the box, we were
backing out of 19th Street, and we heard a plane go over our heads. So me and
the backup man, Jimmy Andruzzi, looked at each other. We realized it was low."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We were on the 59th Street
bridge when out of the corner of our eye we saw the first plane hit the World
Trade Center. Looking south from the 59th Street bridge, we noticed the
smoke."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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POLICE SERGEANT WILLIAM B. ROSS<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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"At approximately 0845, I, Officers Patrick McNerney and Jose
Sanchez, were on routine patrol at the comer of 42nd street and 8th Avenue. As I
was looking east on 42nd Street, I observed a commercial passenger jet flying over at an
extremely low altitude, and heading south. I lost sight of the aircraft for few seconds
when it flew behind some buildings. I immediately realized that an aircraft of that
size would never be given clearance to fly that low over a populated area. My first
thought was that the aircraft was in distress. I thought that the pilot was attempting to make
an emergency landing in the harbor off lower Manhattan. From the comer on 42nd Street, where we were standing, looking east there is an unobstructed view of the top of the
Empire State Building. We again spotted the aircraft for few seconds. It was just east
of the Empire State Building and, to my best estimation, no higher than 500’ above it.</span></div>
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During this time, I looked for signs of distress. I was
trying to observe the plane, as closely as I could for smoke, fire, or any type of vapor
trail. There was none. The landing gear was up and the doors that house the gear closed. The
plane, was, as I stated, traveling south and was moving at a high rate of speed. It
was flying level and straight. The pilot did not appear to be fighting to maintain control
of the aircraft.</span></div>
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Officers Mcnemey Sanchez and I began to comment on the
plane. I said that if the plane was to crash I hoped the aircraft would make it to the
harbor and not hit the Trade Center or The City. Several moments passed, we were listening for
the sound of a crash and heard nothing. At approximately 0855, Sergeant Peter
Schillizzi the Desk Sergeant, broadcast a message over the radio for me, the Patrol
Sergeant, Tour Commander and all Officers to return immediately to the Police Desk. At this
time, I stated to Officer McNemey “ That plane hit the Trade Center!” and started back
to Quarters.</span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Moments later when I arrived at the Police Desk, Sgt.
Schillizzi informed me that an aircraft did hit the Trade Center."</span></div>
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LIEUTENANT ROBERT LAROCCO (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"Now we all heard a plane
that sounded like it was in trouble. So everyone stopped what they were doing.
It was obvious there was something wrong with the motors. They were like
straining, and they were louder than normal. Normally over Manhattan a plane
flies very high. We all looked in the sky and didn't see anything, but then for
six or seven seconds flying out of the northeast, headed southwest, was this
jetliner, like the kind of thing you would go on to go to Miami Beach or Vegas
or something like that. It was flying very low, probably about 350 feet. As it
passed over us, it wobbled, just a little bit. Then after six or seven seconds
of seeing it -- we lost sight of it, because there were six-story tenements
around us so that patch of sky that we saw it for just lasted that small amount
of time.... "<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">EMT FRANK PASTOR<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"I remember our normal routine in the morning,
go get our breakfast, and we go sit and we cover Red Hook, so we had the view
of the city. We were sitting there, and
we were looking at the city. All of a sudden my partner says to me, 'Frankie,
that plane seems to be low.'" <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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"What unit were you working that day?"<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. "We
were working 32 boy in Red Hook. We had the view of the city, and she yells
out, 'Frank, that plane just hit the building.'"<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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"Who is she?"<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. "My partner is Mala, Mala Harilal, and
I look up, and I can't believe what I'm seeing.
I get on the radio, and I said, '32 boy, if you need us, we're
available. We can go right through the
tunnel.' As soon as I seen this, I got
on the phone, and I dialed the number to call my wife to let her know what's
going on. We were standing there in awe. We can't believe what's going on, and she
says -- and I remember my partner, Mala, saying again to me, 'That other plane
is low.' I don't know how much time, 10,
15 minutes, and we seen the other plane hit."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">CHIEF JOSEPH PFEIFER (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"I was working the night
before in the 1st Battalion, and sometime about 8:15 or so in the morning we
got a call to Lispenard and Church for a gas leak in the street. We were there
for a while checking on the gas leak, and then we heard the loud roar of the
plane come over, and we turned around and we looked and we saw the plane coming
down, heading south towards the Trade Center, and made a direct hit on the
Trade Center."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"At this point in the event,
I heard a plane passing overhead extremely low [When at WTC] I really could not
see any indication at that time that a plane had hit it, but certainly it
appeared some catastrophic event had occurred."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We were returning back
there from Battalion 4 and we were going up, I believe it's Pearl Street, and
my partner Alex Loutsky and I, we witnessed the first plane hit the first
tower. Saw it flying low and we thought, that plane's flying kind of low, and
then it hit the building and we went over the radio and we told central that we
had witnessed a plane hitting the building, and at first she didn't believe us,
but then other units started saying they saw the same thing and then we
proceeded straight over to the Trade Center."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We had found out what grate
the leak was coming from and our Chief Pfiefer was bent over with the gas
meter. We heard the plane, we looked up was low enough that it rattled the
buildings we were standing at. We saw it come out from behind the buildings and
hit tower one and like I said, a fireball, looked like 10 or 20 stories big,
shot out the south side of the tower and then out the hole that the plane made
going in."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"Well, here's how my morning
starts. I usually come in around 8:00 like everyone does, but I went to vote,
so I was late. I was coming up Allen, which turns into First. When I was
crossing Delancey Street, I saw a jet in front of me, which was the first jet.
He was pretty low. He was probably about 30 stories. Now I'm heading north and
crossing Delancey Street on Allen and I see the jet make a move toward the
Trade Center. It made a south-westerly turn from that point.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">I proceeded up First Avenue, left
on 14th, parked in front of the firehouse. Fireman Lynn was there. He said they
were out on a box, they wouldn't let him on because they thought they had a
good job, and right then he told me a plane just crashed into the Trade Center.
It was the same exact plane I just saw."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We were at a box for odor
of gas in the street on Church and Lispenard. We were investigating that. We
were just about ready to take up from that box and come back when we heard the
roar of the engines of the plane. Before we knew it, it was overhead. Within
two seconds it hit the north tower."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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JOSEPH CASALIGGI:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"On the morning of September
11th we were operating a box up on Church Street Near Canal. There was an odor
of gas in the area. While we were out operating, we heard the first plane
coming in. I turned around and I watched the plane crash into the north
tower."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We received a run about
8:30 in the morning for a gas leak up at Lispenard Street and Church. We were
operating at that box along with Engine 7, Battalion 1 and Ladder Company 8. I
believe 55 Engine was there also, maybe Engine 24. I'm not [sure]. After about
15 minutes, we conclude our operations there. Lispenard is about one block
south of Canal Street. I believe the chief gave the code for a gas leak, 10-40,
code 1. All the units were about to go 10-8 when we heard this loud roar.
Everybody thought -- or at least to me it sounded as though there was going to
be a Con Edison steam explosion. This was about a quarter to 9, I'd say. So
everybody looked up to where they thought they heard the sound coming from, and
we saw an American Airlines plane. To me it looked as though it was going
treetop level right down West Street. Then he appeared to rise a little bit. We
were under the impression -- he looked like he was going down, but we didn't
hear any mechanical difficulty. We couldn't figure out why an American Airlines
plane would be so low in downtown Manhattan. We sort of expected him to veer
off and go into the Hudson. But he just rose a little bit, his altitude,
leveled off, and he was headed straight for the Trade Center. So just before he
got to the Trade Center, it seemed as though he gained power. We were just
watching this airplane on target for the World Trade Center. All of a sudden,
boom, he disappears into the Trade Center. You hear this sickening noise as if
two pieces of fiberglass had hit. You hear this loud explosion. He just
disappeared into the Trade Center."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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THOMAS SPINARD <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"We got a box on Church and
Leonard of an odor of gas. So Engine 7 and Ladder 1, Battalion 1, responds. It
turned out to be a false alarm. As we were at the box, a plane passes us
overhead real low. You could hear it; you could feel it. We turned around, and
it just impacted the building, building one. With that, everybody got on the
rig. We started driving."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"I was relieved, and a few
of us were standing in front of quarters when we noticed a plane came directly
over the firehouse maybe around 8:45, somewhere around that time. One of the
guys mentioned that the plane looked like it was really low. Before we could
really think of what he said, the next thing we heard an explosion. We saw the
smoke."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">M.D. MICHAEL
GUTTENBERG (Office of Medical Affairs)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">The other thing
that was actually evident, though, is what appeared to be some plane parts,
like some circular pieces of a plane, and lots of shoes. I don't know if that
was women jumping out of their--jumping out of their heels to run, but there
were -- just impressed me there were no -- you know, there were no injuries on
the street at that point, but there was lots of shoes all over the place and
plane parts.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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WERNICK<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">I was going down
south on Church Street, against traffic on Church Street and I pulled up right
behind St. Paul's Cemetery. . . Like when we went to the one, we went down the
West Side Highway, we pulled up over here.
As we pulled out here, there was so much debris, the Lieutenant said,
"Just park it over here." So,
you know, this cemetery, there was papers flying all over the place, there were
engines all over, plane parts, building parts, and then we proceeded to walk
down Vesey Street into the north tower.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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GOMBO (EMS)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Everybody was
wearing their helmet, which was good because there was debris, like just
different types of parts. It might have been plane parts, in fact, they did
look like it, on the floor with stuff coming down as well. . . . At the time of
the impact, we were able to feel heat that was generated from the explosion at
this command post, which was across West Street, and West is fairly large
street with that island in there, and debris was showering all over West
Street.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">We were actually still on Church Street. We heard the plane briefly, the earth shook, the buildings shook, a tremendous fireball overhead. I thought there was a bomb or an explosion. A tremendous fireball, flaming debris, pieces of the airplane, fuselage, landing gear, pieces of the building.</span><br />
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GEORGE J. DESIMONE (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">As we pulled
close to the Trade Center, the tower, we saw airplane parts. We saw bodies. We saw body parts. What we did then was we decided to move a
little bit further west on West Street to the furthermost point that we could.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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CHRISTOPHER ATTANASIO<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Upon arrival,
towers one and two were both ablaze. The
second plane had hit the second tower already.
Both towers were totally engulfed.
People were jumping out of the buildings. There was airplane fuselage and landing gear
around the site. Body parts, victims'
remains on the floor. There were some
injuries on the street. Some cars were
on fire.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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you said you went through the tunnel. You went through the Battery Tunnel?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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right-hand turn, and all you saw was airplane parts and body parts in the
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RICHARD SMIOUSKAS (FDNY)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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saw body parts, feet, a hand with a ring on it, a face with a mustache and eyes
and part of an ear. Just a face, no head, just a face. I saw like the window of
an airplane, one of those small plastic windows.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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STUART BAILEY<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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had everything blocked off and we kind of swerved around debris from the plane,
body parts pretty much everywhere. That's the first time I've ever seen
anything like that. I'm sure no one did.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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STEVEN ALTINI<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Battery Tunnel to lower Manhattan, we proceeded to make a right turn onto West
Street where we were confronted with a lot of debris in the street, airplane
debris, human remains and such.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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BREEN<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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floor, it was a pool, spa, gym equipment, saunas. It was just a workout area and a spa area
with a couple of office spaces. We did
see part of -- I didn't see it, but Jeff Johnson told me later on he did see
part of the landing gear actually fell right through the roof and it was in one
of the Jacuzzis in another room.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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SIDNEY PARRIS<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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agent came down the block. He identified some landing gear that was in front of
our rig, asked me to make sure no pedestrians came down the block to interfere
with any type of metals and debris that were there, because they were trying to
identify to put the pieces back together for the plane.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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HYLAND<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">We carried all
our tools, the bottles, everything, and as we're walking down, part of the
plane engine was sitting right in the street, still burning. I said, look, this
is the plane.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">EMT ROBERT
KIMBALL<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Like I remember
walking by with the chief, and I remember seeing the airplane engine, you know,
pieces of, you know, obviously trade center all over.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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THOMAS LYNN<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">We basically saw
a lot of body parts and plane wreckage that was just all over the street.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">PARAMEDIC MANUEL
DELGADO<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">It's interesting because, as we
were there, there was a police car, I guess, on Vesey, on the corner there, and
some debris comes down from whatever this explosion was, at the time we really
didn't know, and it just crushes it, I mean, crushes the top front of the
police car, which really scared me at that point.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Q. Could you tell if it was
airplane parts?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. It looked like an airplane part
afterward, yes, it did. It looked like part of an engine. It was pretty big. It
was probably the size of the hood because it kind of hit it, bounced, and then
rolled off....Another thing I've got to tell you is, when we first got there, when
we were walking down Vesey towards West, there was a ton of -- or I could say a
lot of body parts and like baggage, clothes and stuff, along Vesey.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Q. From one of the airplanes.?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. Yes, from one of the airplanes.
I don't know if it was the first or the second because this was after the
second one had hit. So it could have been from either one. But I remember
walking –<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. Right in front of the OEM,
because on the OEM building side there was a scaffolding and I remember I was
walking underneath there. We kind of felt that there was some protection
underneath the scaffolding. I remember as we were walking down, after we had
dropped that person off, when we were walking down Vesey, I remember probably
between -- what's this?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. No. Probably between Broadway
and West, I remember seeing body parts.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. Yes, West Broadway and West on
Vesey. I remember seeing body parts and I remember saying to myself where the
hell did these freaking body parts come from? Where are these coming from?
There was a few. I mean, some recognizable, some that didn't look -- like they
were probably charred, and also like luggage stuff, like we saw a lot of shoes,
even some luggage, airplane parts, engine. There was an engine on the left
here. If you remember, building 7, there used to be that overpass over by
building 7. Just in front of it.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Q. The concourse.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. Just up before that, there was
like a little plaza?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Q. Right.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. Right there, there was like a
big engine part. It seemed like a whole engine was right there, lying right
there in the middle of the street.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Q. Covered like the way the jet
looks?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. Yes. In fact,
you could see the fan. I remember that because I could see -- now, it wasn't
the whole engine because the engine is big, but I know the front part of it, it
looked like the whole engine because I could see the fan, and that's what stood
out in my mind. There was an airplane tire also there and then these bodies and
luggage from the thing because there were shoes everywhere also. Some shoes had
what looked like blood in it, other shoes didn't, other shoes were burnt, and
this was just a first impression.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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COOK<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">We walked up
West Street northbound to get to the command post, and there I remember looking
to my right and seeing an aircraft landing gear tire.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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CRAIG MONAHAN<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">You could see
airplane parts just littered across the street , across the highway.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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SMITH<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> The first indication that I had that it was a
plane crash, I remember--because I'm color blind so it's hard for me to
distinguish different colors, especially when everything is gray, because it
had--really had kind of a gray look to it, because of all the dust, you know,
but there was like a bank or something here, and there's like a fountain, I
guess, right in front of the bank. . . .I'm trying to remember everything in
that 20 seconds I'm going past it, but I remember there was lifejackets
everywhere, the yellow in-flight lifejackets, and that the contrast of the
yellow against all the gray, you know. It stood out. It was easy for me to pick
it out, and I remember thinking as I saw that, you know, I guess it must have
been a plane crash, because where the hell else would you get a bunch of yellow
lifejackets in the middle of Manhattan, you know?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">I noticed police officers with First Deputy Commissioner Joseph Dunne of the NYPD in the intersection of Vesey and Church. You could see airplane parts on the ground and although I didn't realize it at the time, I later realized there were body parts, both on the concourse and on the street... I now made a left on Vesey and walked down the street on the 7 World Trade Center side, where I could see more airplane debris... <a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110098.PDF">http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110098.PDF</a></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Q. Did you witness the second plane hitting? </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. I heard it but I didn't look up. The noise from the plane was enough to make you not want to look up. I thought the plane was actually going to land in the street to be honest with you. The noise was outrageous. When it hit the building it was even worse... Various parts of the plane were falling on the street. As we went down the street you could see parts of aircraft with stencil numbers on it and things like that. There was a wheel, or like a wheel housing or something else there in the street. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">...I was walking up West, and I noticed first block we passed I noticed in the street at the end of where the Jersey barriers are, that split up the road before you go into the tunnel -- I guess it would be Carlisle -- I saw the first body or parts of a body, upper torso, no head, no arms or legs. I saw another one across the street. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Q. These are from the people that were jumping out of the building? </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. No, I don't believe so. I believe it was from the airplane, people in the building and the airplane coming through and it blew these people out into the street, because you couldn't have jumped that far. It's impossible. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">EMS DIVISION CHIEF JOHN PERUGGIA </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">I passed over some pieces of what appeared to be aircraft wreckage, fuselage, whatever, some body parts and bodies in various states, either people from the building or the airplanes. You couldn't tell. They weren't intact. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">EMT RICHARD ZARRILLO </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Captain Nahmod and I were running down Vesey Street stepping over airplane pieces, several bodies and whatnot... There was what looked like the front wheel assembly of an airplane. Unknown the size of the plane that had hit, it just looked like it was one pair of wheels on an assembly, pieces of metal with rivets in them, a few body parts scattered around. </span><br />
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-style: italic;">FIREFIGHTER JOHN MORIBITO<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-style: italic;">"I noticed in the courtyard that there were valises, suitcases,
strewn about the courtyard. There were
wallets everywhere, broken glass, and then I noticed that there were airplane tickets. </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">I started
to get a picture of the size of
the airplane that had hit the building. Up until then, we thought it was
maybe a small two-seater plane, and now we were starting to get the idea that
it was maybe larger or a commercial airliner."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">BATTALION CHIEF BRIAN DIXON
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">"Debris was falling down but not at any great
point. By the time I started to pass by in front of 10 and 10. As I got down a
little farther, there was what looked to be a piece of the cabin of the
airplane, I guess. It looked like a piece of it about maybe six foot long. It
looked like the windows."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Q. "This is on Liberty?"<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">A. "This is on Liberty and
just west of 10 and 10, whatever that next building is there. Now that I think
back, I guess it could have been -- I don't know if it was the windows. It
actually looked like the rounded cutout of the windows of the cabin of a
plane."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;">See more eyewitness
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<span style="font-size: large; font-weight: normal;"><i><a href="http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/04/911-and-pentagon-attack-what.html" target="_blank">9/11 and the Pentagon Attack: What Witnesses Described</a></i></span></h1>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FIRE CHIEF
FRANK FELLINI: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">"The
major concern at that time at that particular location was number Seven,
building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. ... We
were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would
result in the building collapsing. So for the next five or six hours we kept
firefighters from working anywhere near that building, which included the whole
north side of the World Trade Center complex. Eventually around 5:00 or a
little after, building number seven came down." <a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110217.PDF">http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110217.PDF</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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FIRE CHIEF DANIEL NIGRO:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">"The
biggest decision we had to make on the first day was to clear the area and
create a collapse zone around the severely damaged 7 World Trade Center, a
47-story building heavily involved in fire. A number of fire officers and
companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that
the building's integrity was in serious doubt. I issued the orders to pull back
the firefighters and define the collapse zone. It was a critical decision; we
could not lose any more firefighters. It took a lot of time to pull everyone
out, given the emotionalism of the day, communications difficulties, and the
collapse terrain." <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-155/issue-9/world-trade-center-disaster/volume-i-initial-response/report-from-the-chief-of-department.html" target="_blank">Daniel Nigro Interview, "Report from the Chief of Department," Fire Engineering, 9/2002</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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DANIEL NIGRO (in another account): "I ordered the evacuation of an area
sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue
operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough
so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldn't lose any more people. We
continued to operate on what we could from that distance and approximately an
hour and a half after that order was given, at 5:30 in the afternoon, 7 World
Trade Center collapsed completely." <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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FIRE CHIEF FRANK CRUTHERS: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">"Early
on, there was concern that 7 World Trade Center might have been both impacted
by the collapsing tower and had several fires in it and there was a concern
that it might collapse. So we instructed that a collapse area ... be set up and
maintained so that when the expected collapse of 7 happened, we wouldn't have
people working in it." <br /><a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110179.PDF" target="_blank">http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110179.PDF</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">FRANK CRUTHERS (in another account): "Of primary importance early on in the
operation was the structural condition of 7 World Trade Center. Assistant Chief
Frank Fellini had been approached by several chiefs who were concerned about
its stability. It had been heavily damaged in the collapse and was
well-involved in fire. Chief Fellini had looked at it and described to us some
damage to its south side; he felt that structural components of the building
had been comprised. So when Chief Dan Nigro arrived at the command post, he
convened a meeting of staff chiefs, and this was a major subject of the
meeting. We were all in accord about the danger of 7 WTC, and we all agreed
that it was not too conservative of a decision to establish a collapse zone for
that building, move the firefighters out of the collapse area, and maintain
that strategy." <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-155/issue-9/world-trade-center-disaster/volume-i-initial-response/postcollapse-command.html" target="_blank">Frank Cruthers, "Postcollapse Command," Fire Engineering, 9/2002</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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FIRE CAPTAIN RAY GOLDBACH: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">"There
was a big discussion going on at that point about pulling all of our units out
of 7 World Trade Center. Chief Nigro didn't feel it was worth taking the
slightest chance of somebody else getting injured. So at that point we made a
decision to take all of our units out of 7 World Trade Center because there was
a potential for collapse. ... Made the decision to back everybody away, took
all the units and moved them all the way back toward North End Avenue, which is
as far I guess west as you could get on Vesey Street, to keep them out of the way."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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DEPUTY CHIEF PETER HAYDEN:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">"We
were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a
bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a
transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually
could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down
about 5 o'clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o'clock in the afternoon we
realized this thing was going to collapse."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://www.firehouse.com/article/10567885/deputy-chief-peter-hayden?page=4" target="_blank">Peter Hayden Interview, Firehouse Magazine, April 2002</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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LIEUTENANT RUDOLPH WEINDLER: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">"So
we left 7 World Trade Center. . . and Captain Varriale told Chief Coloe and
myself that 7 World Trade Center was badly damaged on the south side and
definitely in danger of collapse. Chief Coloe said we were going to evacuate
the collapse zone around 7 World Trade Center, which we did."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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CAPTAIN CHRIS BOYLE: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">"So
we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was
any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a
hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was
falling down on the building and it didn’t look good. </span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 16pt;">But they
had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the
street, but eventually they pulled back too. Then we received an order from
Fellini, we’re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my
stomach tightened up because the building didn’t look good. I was figuring
probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I
wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to
said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking
at the building. It didn’t look right, but, well, we’ll go in, we’ll see.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;">So we
gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7.
And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came
running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there
are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10
minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another
report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so
Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was
abandoned."<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 11.5pt;"><a href="http://www.firehouse.com/stateprovince/new-york/captain-chris-boyle" target="_blank">"WTC: This Is Their Story, Interview with Captain Chris Boyle" August, 2oo2. </a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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